Dating of BURNS Guitars and early BALDWIN
Guitars
1960 -1967 .
SERIALNo.PLATE. Click on the photo's to enlarge pictures !
During
1960 and the greater part of 1961 , all models had "GLUE-IN" necks and no serial-numbers were used
! The serial-numbers were introduced , together with the "SCREW-ON"
neck-models , around the same time as the introduction of the BURNS 4 Pick Up
Black Bison Guitar in December 1961. The BURNS 4 Pick Up Black Bison guitar was
the ONLY BURNS-model with a "GLUE-IN" neck and with a SERIALNo. This Serialno. was engraved
on a black plate and mounted on the tremolo-base.
: See photo
On all models , with "SCREW-ON"-necks , the serialno. was engraved on a
rectangular plate, made from scratchplate-material.
This plate was fitted with 4 scratchplate-screws on the back of the body ,
covering the 4 neck-fastening
screws and also the trussrod-adjusting -spindle. Together with the serialno. you can also find
the various Patent Application
numbers / Patent numbers and /or Registered Design numbers
(also engraved) on the Serialno.plate.
: See photo
After the BALDWIN takeover (end of September 1965 ) , the serialno.range was maintained, for some time , but after mid-1966 the layout and design of the Serialno.plates changed .
DATE-STICKER.
You may find the Date-sticker under the scratchplate or controle-panel. See photo At least if the sticker is still there ! A lot of stickers got lost through the years ! I have NOT found any Date-sticker on 1960 /1961 /1962 models ! Occasionally you can find a date written (with pencil) under the scratchplate.
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I bought my first BURNS-guitar on March 14 , 1983 . Since the start of my collection I've have been gathering serailno.s with the belonging date's and also a lot of other useful information .
I've made a list of these Serialno's and the belonging Date's. There is a remarkable "GUIDE-LINE" among the serialno's and the belonging date's , within a reasonable deviation , especially in 1964 and 1965 ! Of course there are exceptions ( some are marked with * ) which do NOT quite fit in this "GUIDE-LINE"
Serialno.'s & Dates
Serialno. on : serialno.-plate |
MODEL : |
Date on : sticker beneath the scratchplate |
20555 |
BALDWIN BISON GUITAR |
9 February 1967 |
18463 |
BALDWIN VIBRASLIM BASS |
1 December 1966 |
17198 |
BALDWIN BISON BASS |
31 October 1966 |
15273 | BALDWIN JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR (Trans.-model) | 19 May 1966 |
14758 | BURNS SHADOWS BASS (transition-model) | 14 February 1966 ** |
12979 | BALDWIN NU-SONIC BASS ( transition-model) | 17 January 1966 |
12949 |
BALDWIN MARVIN GUITAR ( transition-model) |
30 November 1965 |
12494 |
BALDWIN BABY BISON GUITAR (V-headstock) |
26 October 1965 |
12418 | BURNS BABY BISON GUITAR | 7 October 1965 |
11711 |
BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR |
22 January 1965 |
10874 |
BURNS JAZZ BASS |
22 March 1965 |
10810 |
BURNS BISON GUITAR |
9 September 1965 |
10654 |
BURNS BISON BASS |
18 March 1965 |
9700 | BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR | 24 February 1965 |
9460 |
BURNS BISON GUITAR |
25 November 1964 |
9064 |
BURNS MARVIN GUITAR |
2 December 1964 |
8998 |
BURNS MARVIN GUITAR |
19 November 1964 |
8975 |
BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR (left/hand) |
17 November 1964 |
8952 | BURNS JAZZ BASS | 23 November 1964 |
8942 |
BURNS BISON BASS |
30 November 1964 |
8913 |
BURNS JAZZ BASS |
9 November 1964 |
8637 |
BURNS BISON GUITAR |
13 November 1964 |
8582 |
BURNS BISON GUITAR |
13 November 1964 |
8350 |
BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR |
28 September 1964 |
8258 |
BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR |
9 December 1964 |
8206 | BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR | 28 May 1964 * |
8167 |
BURNS MARVIN GUITAR |
5 November 1964 |
8134 |
BURNS NU-SONIC GUITAR |
26 November 1964 |
8067 |
BURNS BISON GUITAR |
11 November 1964 |
8051 |
BURNS MARVIN GUITAR |
19 November 1964 |
7890 |
BURNS 3P/U BISON GUITAR ALBINO-MODEL |
18 April 1964 * |
7882 |
BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR |
3 September 1964 |
7432 | BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR | 4? September 1964 |
7333 | BURNS JAZZ SHORTSCALE GUITAR | 18 August 1964 |
7291 |
BURNS MARVIN GUITAR |
7 August 1964 |
7264 |
BURNS JAZZ SHORTSCALE GUITAR |
24 September 1964 |
7214 |
AMPEG/BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR |
10 August 1964 |
6740 |
BURNS JAZZ SHORTSCALE GUITAR |
16 June 1964 |
6580 |
BURNS NU-SONIC BASS |
19 June 1964 |
6571 |
BURNS NU-SONIC BASS |
23 June 1964 |
6514 |
BURNS MARVIN GUITAR |
30 June 1964 |
6125 |
BURNS JAZZ SHORTSCALE GUITAR |
8 July 1964 |
5940 |
AMPEG/BURNS JAZZ SPLITSOUND GUITAR |
8 June 1964 |
5939 |
BURNS VISTA SONIC BASS |
22 June 1964 |
5751 |
BURNS VISTA SONIC GUITAR |
6 May 1964 |
5649 |
BURNS MARVIN GUITAR |
21 April 1964 |
5576 |
BURNS MARVIN GUITAR |
18 April 1964 |
5474 | BURNS DOUBLE SIX | 5 May 1964 |
5306 |
BURNS DOUBLE SIX |
2 May 1964 |
5194 |
BURNS DOUBLE SIX |
2 April 1964 |
5186 |
BURNS SPLITSOUND 6 STRING BASS |
21 April 1964 |
5120 | BURNS (BLACK)BISON BASS ( in RED SUNBURST !) | 10 August 1964 * |
5046 | BURNS SPLITSOUND 6 STRING BASS | 21 April 1964 |
5008 |
BURNS DOUBLE SIX |
9 June 1964 |
4445 |
BURNS NU-SONIC GUITAR |
8 April 1964 |
4171 |
BURNS BLACK BISON 3 P/U GUITAR |
14 November 1963 * |
4147 |
BURNS JAZZ SHORTSCALE GUITAR |
17 March 1964 |
NO Serialno. ! | BURNS SONIC GUITAR | 26 February 1964 ( ON STICKER !) |
NO Serialno. ! | BURNS SONIC GUITAR | NO STICKER ! 11/12/63 *** |
3783 |
BURNS VISTA SONIC 4 STRING BASS (Prototype) |
6 December 1963 |
2396 |
BURNS BLACK BISON 3 Pick Up GUITAR |
9 December 1963 |
NO Serialno. ! | BURNS SONIC GUITAR | NO STICKER ! 06/12/63 *** |
NO Serialno. ! | BURNS SONIC BASS | NO STICKER ! 02/12/63 *** |
1597 |
BURNS SPLITSOUND 6 STRING BASS |
NO STICKER ! 26/02/63 *** |
NO Serialno. ! | BURNS SONIC GUITAR | NO STICKER ! 16/01/63 *** |
NO Serialno. ! | BURNS SONIC BASS | NO STICKER ! 28/12/62 *** |
111 | BURNS 4 Pick Up BISON GUITAR ( green/golden sunburst) | NO STICKER ! NO DATE ! **** |
95 | BURNS 4 Pick Up BLACK BISON GUITAR | NO STICKER ! NO DATE ! **** |
I've made a review of 11 Serialno.plates from 1962-'67, as a contribution for the new burnsbook : Pearls & Crazy Diamonds(2001) |
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REMARKS: * : Deviate from "GUIDE-LINE" ** : "BURNS"- logo on R/H-horn ! *** : Date written under scratchplate ! **** : Serialno.plate on tremolo-base- plate !
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